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Title: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: scrappy on August 30, 2025, 09:40:45 AM
I saw something 'interesting' to me in the news today.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/robert-redfield-mrna-vaccines/2025/08/28/id/1224359/

Seeing this item, I recalled a rather heated (and locked) discussion here about Covid vaccines

https://dollbarandgrill.com/forum/index.php?topic=194.0

What does it matter? It matters to me because now, BTW under Trump when right-wing talking points that were arguably suppressed under Biden or whoever was running the show while he was 'president' are 'coming out', concerns that I had are (finally) being expressed by at least one person with some credential-supported clout. 'Regime change' is 'good'.
Title: Re: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: Phil on September 05, 2025, 05:32:51 AM
There is so much "information" out there, but how does one know what is actual?   I know that I tend to believe what I choose to believe without much regard for what may or may not be true or actual.

Phil
Title: Re: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: scrappy on September 05, 2025, 07:10:48 AM
I try to not let my values interfere with my evaluation of what's going on in the world. Whether or not I succeed is open to other people's opinions.

The model I have for my own opinions runs on a continuum from suspicion to belief and then on to confidence, conviction, and certainty. With all the 'fake news' from various sources, I am only Certain of things I have personally observed or where there is a solid model of physical phenomena. In the latter instance, I am 'certain', for example, that 'the sun will come up tomorrow' even though I have yet to observe it.

With respect to mRNA biology, I am a (damn good) computer programmer. In COMPUTER programming, where it is humanly possible to KNOW EXACTLY what the CODE is going to do, lots of programmers (most in my experience) fuck up and the programs do stuff they're not supposed to do. mRNA is cellular PROTEIN programming. Unlike computer programming, I am 'convinced' (the level just below certainty) that human science does NOT know exactly what the code is going to do. And like computer programming, mRNA programming is subject to human error. Also like computer programming, the ignorance about what the mRNA protein 'code' is going to do raises a possibilty (and probability?) that the code will do 'bad stuff' that was not intended. As a biological process, it can take years before the bad stuff manifests. Can you say tertiary syphilis? Thalidomide? Cigarette smoke?

So I personally don't trust mRNA. As described above that distrust flows not only from my opinions but also from my professional (and educational) background. The use of mRNA vaccines to deal with COVID-19 was highly political and the controversy related to the (Democrat) regime which was running the US for most of the pandemic. Opinions like mine were suppressed and ridiculed. That is why the OP news item, attributed to a (purported) Subject Matter Expert, criticizing mRNA is of interest to me.
Title: Re: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: Smoke on September 06, 2025, 10:40:34 AM
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  :whistle: :oldman:
Title: Re: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: Z-Dr on September 11, 2025, 09:01:38 AM
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  :whistle: :oldman:

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Title: Re: In the news: mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Post by: Smoke on September 26, 2025, 02:36:07 PM
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  :whistle: :oldman:

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