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Ceej

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Repair advice requested
« on: April 13, 2022, 12:28:01 PM »
Hey guys.

As most of you may know already, I'm trying to fix a delamination issue with Nicole, with no real luck so far. I apologize for the rough structure of this post but I'm a little stressed and frustrated with my situation to say the least.

I'm used to fixing a delam by injecting silicone between the outer silicone skin and the hard foam core under. It's very easy to feel when the needle meets the hard foam, pull out just a little and inject some flowable silicone, and kneed it in, let cure, done.

What I think I'm dealing with is a delam between layers of a silicone core or cores and the outer skin, making it impossible to accurately tell if the needle is deep enough or not, to get it between the two layers that separated.
I made several attempts at this now by guestimation, with very limited success. In fact I think this made things worse.
I'd say there's a fair length of separation now between the outside of Nicole's hip, across the front, where her leg meets her pelvis, down to her groin.

When I bring Nicole's leg up to her chest, I can hear some air leakage from her vag, between the inner core and the outer pour. Nicole is an insert doll, but apparently there appears to be a separate silicone core that holds the insert that is reinforced on the outside with some sort of fabric.(I can see this fabric in her vag) I believe the delam is between this fabric covered core and the silicone of the outer pour, and I believe that separation here is where it all started.

So what I plan to do next is to bring her leg up to her chest which causes the silicone at the side of her hip to bubble out,  inject some flowable silicone in there while its bubbled out. then bring her leg down pulling the bubble down, and try to kneed the flowable silicone along her pelvis to her groin till I see it come out her inner vag core.

What I've worked with in the past is mixing silpoxy with a silicone thinner and I've found that this works very well for delaminations. The only drawback is there is a very limited amount of time to mix it up, get it in the syringe, inject it in and spread it though out, before it starts to set.


What I want to ask is, if anyone knows if either two part smoothon ecoflex silicone, or Permatex flowable windshield sealant will hold as well as thinned silpoxy will?
Both the smoothon silicone and Permatex seem to have a longer working time.



Sorry to be a downer, but this one's got me stumped. This is going to be my last attempt before I throw in the towel, as I don't know what else I can do.



I want to give one piece of advise to all Realdoll owners. I urge you to remove the vag insert, take some slipoxy or equivalent and smear some all the way around the ledge of the step inside the vag, where the front part of the insert rests against, (this is what I belive to be the boundary between the reinforced core and the outer pour) and let that set up before putting the insert back in for use. Had I known and done this, I don't think I would have the problem I have now.
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Sandy is a wonderful B6 Classic Realdoll, and Nicole is a sweet Realdoll Petite 5.  Close sisters, they both share classic F1 faces as well as all the classic F1 expression faces. Sandy also has several sets of reusable "Real Breast" prosthetics.     Julie, Christine, Emma, Kiki and their friends are sexy little Phicen micro-babes.

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2022, 12:31:17 PM »
Good luck buddy. Sorry, I got nothing.

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2022, 01:12:03 PM »
Sorry to hear this Ceej.  :(

Without actually seeing it , I'm at a loss.   ::)

I sent you a PM.
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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2022, 03:32:08 PM »
Thanks Smoke. got it!


I am doing a test with some sacrificial silicone now to see if Permatex or smoothon will work.

If anyone has some ideas, please, I'm all ears.
" Leaving it to the imagination "     is highly overrated.




Sandy is a wonderful B6 Classic Realdoll, and Nicole is a sweet Realdoll Petite 5.  Close sisters, they both share classic F1 faces as well as all the classic F1 expression faces. Sandy also has several sets of reusable "Real Breast" prosthetics.     Julie, Christine, Emma, Kiki and their friends are sexy little Phicen micro-babes.

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2022, 09:05:43 PM »
No advice to offer.

Best of luck.  :thumb:

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2022, 09:32:38 PM »
I agree with Smoke, some tasteful pictures would help. I know they will be hard to take.
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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2022, 12:13:24 PM »
Thanks everyone for your replies and well wishes.


Unfortunately, trying to take clear pics of what's going on inside the vag, is like taking pics through a keyhole.  I did find a few photos taken at Abyss showing the skeletons with the cores in place.





And I think I know why I couldn't feel the cores when I tried to inject silicone the other times.....When I brought Nicole's leg up to her chest, the silicone bulged out from the thick open space from right between the bottom of the pelvis core and the top of the thigh core. So I think I'll need to inject the repair silicone at the edge/s of the bulged area, not the center as one would for a regular delaminationi.
" Leaving it to the imagination "     is highly overrated.




Sandy is a wonderful B6 Classic Realdoll, and Nicole is a sweet Realdoll Petite 5.  Close sisters, they both share classic F1 faces as well as all the classic F1 expression faces. Sandy also has several sets of reusable "Real Breast" prosthetics.     Julie, Christine, Emma, Kiki and their friends are sexy little Phicen micro-babes.

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2022, 04:56:38 PM »
Two heads are better than one....

And with a visit from the good Dr. Smoke and his Dr. bag of supplies, I think there is a good chance Nicole will be fine.

Sometimes it just takes a second pair of hands, a second experienced opinion, and a little extra persuasion all from a good doll buddy.


We discovered that the delamination was MUCH worse than I thought. I would guess that it covered an area of 25 to 30 square inches. It went from the vagina down her inner thigh a little, and up behind her pubic mound and all the way across the front of her pelvis to the side of her hip.

The problem with this kind of delamination is that it does not show up in the usual way. the only real clue I had was that when I put her legs up last week, I heard a tiny bit of air seep out from her vag.
We found it by cutting the separation between the vag core and the outer silicone skin layer a little deeper with an exacto kinife. As soon as I did, I felt a pocket open up. I felt in side a little deeper in and I was able reach my finger all the way in the areas I described above except the side of her hip where my fingers weren't long enough to reach..


We tried some two part smooth-on. but that would not go through the needle at all, so we used a mixture of silpoxy thinned with silicone thinner, injected that in several places along her hip, and the front area of her hip, and I worked it in with a syringe (without a needle) in the rest of the areas that I could reach from the vag.


We wrapped her up with  tensor bandages and now its a wait and see....but at least now I have a good idea that we were able to get the repair silicone throughout the delaminated areas..


Thank-you Smoke for giving up a bit of your time this weekend to help me out with this  :)   :cheers:




I'll say this yet again....to prevent this in the future, anyone getting a new RD, before you play, pull out her insert, and smear a bit of one part silicone around the step that's about two inches inside, where the head of the insert rests against.  Had I done this, in the beginning, I think this problem never would have happened.
" Leaving it to the imagination "     is highly overrated.




Sandy is a wonderful B6 Classic Realdoll, and Nicole is a sweet Realdoll Petite 5.  Close sisters, they both share classic F1 faces as well as all the classic F1 expression faces. Sandy also has several sets of reusable "Real Breast" prosthetics.     Julie, Christine, Emma, Kiki and their friends are sexy little Phicen micro-babes.

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2022, 06:45:58 PM »
Well, don't be giving me so much credit  Ceej, you already had it figured out. I was however very happy to act as a sounding board and offer a second pair of hands.  :thumb:

I don't see a reason why Little Miss Nicole won't recover ,fully and completely.  8)
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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2022, 07:30:39 PM »
Well done our Kanookistan kuzins!  :egyptian:

Was there beer? :cheers:

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Re: Repair advice requested
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2022, 09:37:02 PM »


Was there beer? :cheers:


Doc, this is Kanookistan. I'm shocked that you even had to ask that question. :o


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