If you are in the USA, do you trust the FDA or CDC regarding the C19 vaccine?

[BCD]

Hi,
after watching these three videos by doctors with no motive to lie, I do not
https://rumble.com/vrg9nv-dr.-nathan-thompson-bloodwork-on-vaxxed-patient-is-terrifying.html
https://www.flemingmethod.com/the-pfizer-vaccine-blood
https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/dr-ryan-cole-what-the-vaccine-spike-protein-does-to-the-body/
Jeff aka BCD

[noquiexis]

     I have not, and will not watch these three videos. I have no clue who these "doctors" might be.
I do know that there are people who will go to any lengths to discredit the COVID-19 vaccines.
The vast majority of the medical community trusts in the vaccines, and recommend them to everyone.

[Z-Dr]

Interesting, but that is over an hour of my life I will never get back.  Each one of those videos had a valid point or two, but in general, based on my strong scientific background, I call bullshit.

In the first video, they appear to be blood testing immediately after injection so inflammation and elevated lymphocyte count are what are should be expected.  The numbers are only slightly outside acceptable limits so his theatrics are hardly warranted.  Reduced NK Killer cells (special lymphocytes) may be a cause for concern, but they are still within normally acceptable limits. 

In the second video, they are injecting the vaccine directly into hematocrit, condensed blood where all the plasma has been removed.  The vaccines are normally injected into muscle, not the blood.  Some of it will slowly find it's way into the blood or the lymph system.  It would be akin to chugging a quart of everclear as opposed to nursing a beer over an hour.  Much of the "garbage" are contaminants on the slides and coverslips, something I encounter on a regular basis.  I am not saying the vaccines are safe, but this is out of context sensationalist journalism designed to dazzle less knowledgeable people into believing what they are selling.  After all, he is a lawyer not just a doctor.

The third video focuses on the "spike protein" which is only found in the J&J vaccine.  It acts just like a regular flu shot using an attenuated version of the virus to induce an immune response.  Inflammation is expected (that is an immune response) but it is concerning where some of the responses occur.

I did like what the third doctor was touting, screen first.  Vaccines or boosters should not be administered if the blood work shows presence of the antibodies which means the body is already primed to deal with the virus.  I think he used the term "over-sensitizing the immune system" which can cause problems.

Anyways, my point is don't believe everything you hear.  There are a lot of sensationalists out there trying to get attention.  There is a little bit of valid info in these videos but most of it is out of context.

[Phil]

Hi,
after watching these three videos by doctors with no motive to lie, I do not
https://rumble.com/vrg9nv-dr.-nathan-thompson-bloodwork-on-vaxxed-patient-is-terrifying.html
https://www.flemingmethod.com/the-pfizer-vaccine-blood
https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/dr-ryan-cole-what-the-vaccine-spike-protein-does-to-the-body/
Jeff aka BCD

How is it you know that they have no motive to lie?

Phil

[scrappy]

The vast majority of the medical community trusts in the vaccines, and recommend them to everyone.

I live in the New York Feminist Socialist Republic, which ironically allowed a FINO (Feminist in name only) governor to perv unchecked for years and was, at last report, having his multi-million dollar legal fees paid by the taxpayers. That governor and his equally pro-vaccine successor command the New York State Department of Health by fiat. The Department tells not only 'the vast majority' but all providers 'of the medical community' to PUBLICLY agree with the governor or lose their licenses to provide health care. In my personal experience, the providers, recognizing that the research supporting the efficacy of the vaccines is 'shaky' at best, will acknowledge serious doubts about recommending vaccines in PRIVATE discussions and acknowledge as well that they have to do and say what they're told. I don't know what goes on in other states.

However with reference to other states, I have a relative who worked for state governments in New York, Arizona, and California. His assessment is that New York is the most corrupt of the three. New York currently has an Assembly Speaker (Sheldon Silver) and a Senate majority leader (Dean Skelos) in jail and a former governor (Andrew Cuomo), having resigned to avoid impeachment by a legislature totally controlled by his own party, defending himself in legal battles. I don't know if any other states have that level of notoriety among the individuals who ran the place.

[Ceej]

Just a friendly reminder, I know this is a hot issue, but let's try and keep the politics out of it.

[Mr_Hand]

If I got the smallpox vaccine three times and I still got smallpox, How effective is that “vaccine “ ?…

And why are therapeutics being ignored ?

We are being forced to take experimental drugs. Basically, we are the beta testers.

Your opinion may vary, but I won't force you to agree with me, nor will I have my schills threaten and intimidate you.

[scrappy]

To validate my perv/horndog bonafides (and trying to keep the politics only a passing reference) ...

I didn't get vaxxed until July. I 'ran into' a JUNIOR HIGH school friend online. She said she wouldn't meet in person unless I got vaxxed. So I did.

I got boosted last month because my new dating partner said she'd prefer that we not kiss until I did.

Do I think the chemicals are effective at preventing anything? At preventing Covid? damned if I know (but admit to skepticism about how effective). At preventing me sitting home alone with the dolls (not a 'bad' thing at that) instead of getting out somewhere with a RG? THAT they work for.

At this point, I see the 'pandemic' as one third health issue and two thirds political/economical. I'd give the politics and the economics one third each if I could figure out where one ended and the other began.

[Begog]

I agree. Covid has become a political tool to control the masses. I had it twice before the vaccine was even available to me. Now I've had it 3 times, and KNOW I got antibodies superior to most. That was proven the last 2 times I had it. Oddly, Omicron blew through my plant, nearly everyone got it, but I did not, despite being exposed to it on at least 2 occasions. The disappointing thing about these vaccines is that THEY damn near all got Omicron, but only one of us filthy unvaxxed did that I know of. What does this mean? Probably nothing, but if I was triple-jabbed and still caught and spread the crap, I'd lay off of the unvaxxed, but they seem to still be blaming us, despite the massive evidence.
The Chinese, with the help of Fauci and US funding, have essentially created a new flu, that will most likely be with us the rest of our lives, no matter how many jabs you get. And notice there is no working vaccine for it either. The good news is, it keeps getting more survivable, and some countries have declared the crisis over, and gone back to normal. That's what we need to do.

[Begog]

<BUMP>
It's been over a year. How is everyone doing? Let's all update Covid status, please.
UNVAXXED
Had Covid initially on 1/17/20. Still coughing. Docs baffled. Had Covid again in January '21, and a 3rd time (Delta) October '21. Have not had Covid since. Folks had Omicron all around me, but somehow I avoided it. In fact, I have not been sick even once in 22! 
I credit that to antibodies, my retirement in May, and I've been on a drug called Dupixent since February '22 (for asthma), and it has made a real difference. How about you?

[Smoke]

I've had two jabs. I don't plan on having more even though I get e-mails from public health recommending I do. My doctor has also been on me about getting a booster. No thanks. I Haven't been sick since this whole thing started. Just lucky I guess. 

[KarmaMusic]

I only got the first two shots and no plans to get any of the more recent!!

[oleesheet]

I've been healthy all my life (knocking on wood) and was gearing up for covid when it first made the rounds.  I got the initial 2 (Pfizer) jabs just so I could go places since so many businesses required verification.  Since then, no boosters or anything else.  Shit when I saw people get all these shots and still come down with it, I decided to hold on tight and hope for the best.  So far, no covid for me.

[scrappy]

As a retired certified computer programmer and certified medical coder, I have no trust in long-term safety of the 'protein coding' technique of the mRNA vaccines. I got the Janssen twice, most recently over a year ago, both times at the 'request' of RGs I was dating. If I had 'it', and there's no way to be sure, it was in Feb '20.

[Mr_Hand]

Service Corporation International, the largest funeral operator in America has seen a rise in unexplained deaths according to it’s CEO, of about 15-20%.

Which is great for business.

On the other hand, the rise of unexplained deaths is reeking havoc on the life insurance industry, which has had a 15-20% increase in benefit payouts.

While they won’t come out and finger point to the vaccine’s, it’s interesting how the funeral industry skirts the issue by saying they don’t need any blowback by stating the obvious.

Read the article here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/funeral-business-booming-and-not-because-covid

My body, my choice.

I had one shot in March 2020, and I’ve had one confirmed ( home test ) case of Covid, and several episodes that mirror the confirmed case.

All mild, cold like symptoms. So I feel no need to get any more vaccines.